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A szombat délelőtt az a pillanat, amikor a nem a személyi igazolványa szerinti, hanem valódi magyar ember fel kell, és a kigőzölgések tudatosítják benne, a védőpajzs megvéd bennünket, sumérokat, szkítákat, etruszkokat, keltákat, hunokat vagyis magyarokat. Mondjuk ez nem is nehéz,…..
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Andreas SE 2010.02.13 11:53:47
@szaszalino: Miért lennél hülye. Ha nem hiszel benne, mondj nemet!
Andreas SE 2010.02.15 09:04:58
@Terrier: Ha ismertél volna, mikor az emlitett cégeket tanulmányoztad, én rögtön megmondtam volna, hogy azok igazi fraud-ok voltak. Egy stokholmi ismerösőm a 90-es évek elején igen nagy port vert fel egy nagyon is hasonló ötlettel. Nagy ujságcikkek és a károsultak örjöngése követte. A roppant elmés honfitársaink onnan vehették az ötletet. Rejtéj számomra, hogy tudtak 15 évvel késöbb a magyarok bedölni ennek. Mikor megtudtam, hogy egy budapesti jó barátom több 1 milliót forintot veszitett, nem hittem a fülemnek. De vissza a te a keresztes háborudra. Az emlitett cégek és a CDT között csak egy(!) közös dolog van: a gyémánt. Semmi más! Tanulmányozva irásaidat a blogokban, biztos vagyok benne, hogy tüzetesen átlovastad a CDT hivatalos szájtjának minden oldalát és valószinüleg látod, jogilag nagyon nehéz megtámadni. Egyszerübb a dolgod a magyar tagok szájtjaival. Sajnos legtöbbjük elég amatör. De ez jelemző nagyon sok üzletet kináló magyar szájtra is. De ez még nem ad okot arra, hogy a CDT piramis lenne. Ha valamit is elérsz evvel a kemény munkával, valószinűleg az, hogy hálozatépitök emelik webszájtjaik minöségét. Ez az, amin mindenki nyerhet.
Andreas SE 2010.02.15 10:26:46
Én magam részéről evvel a közleménnyel zárom a részvételemet. Itt a valóság!

The following rebuttal contains answers to all of your questions along with explanations to help you better understand Canadian Diamond Traders (CDT) and the Diamond Trading Program (DTP) as it seems that you lack sufficient knowledge or the ability to research judging from your questions and claims in this report. In the future we ask that you investigate your own claims more closely before going on the Internet or anywhere else and defaming, slandering, and giving false information to the public and making false claims against the company.

We have answered every one of your questions that were mentioned here. Please read them and if you will have any further questions, contact us by phone, email or even fax. All of our contact details are listed within the answers as well as at the end.

You get an offer to put down either $120 or $500 deposit for a diamond, get two people to do the same and wait until the situation repeats itself until you have $3,000 plus diamonds. Sounds good right?

First of all joining the Diamond Trading Program is FREE; the deposit options you mentioned depend on the value of the diamond which is planned to be purchased. The options available are either a minimum of a $100 deposit for a diamond valued at $400 or more or a minimum of $500 for diamonds valued at or over $2000. There is also no requirement to pay any deposit to join the DTP, which is free, or earn a marketing fee. The diamond could also be purchased upfront by paying the full amount which would be approximately 50% of its appraised value.

Secondly, for people who join the FREE Diamond Trading Program (called Independent Diamond Traders) to be qualified to receive a marketing fee of $3500 it is only necessary to market CDT's products (diamonds and diamond jewelry) therefore generating sales for the company. Generating sales for the company helps them qualify to receive the marketing fee in exchange for the services they provided the company. The generated sales could be made to people regardless of whether or not they join the DTP, which is FREE.

So basically, instead of paying millions of dollars to advertising companies, CDT pays millions of dollars to thousands of diamond traders around the world on a continuous basis for marketing.

But you must ask yourself a question. Is this a pyramid scheme? The answer is probably yes.

Actually, CDT has had several lawyers analyze the business, all of whom said that it was perfectly legal and does not fall under any pyramid laws including the FBI laws, Canadian laws, different US state laws, Australian laws, among others. If you would like the actual analyses, you can send an email to support@cdtforever.com and we can go from there. We have also posted several of the laws and their analyses on our forums or, if you prefer, you can send us your local laws and our legal team will analyze them for you.

Here is the question to ask yourself before getting involved in this ripoff. If you join the $120 FEEDER program, then after a number of people are recruited, you will move up to the position where you will move into the TRADER program.

The first point to address here is that the Feeder and DTP programs are FREE to join; all you need to do is register on CDT's website (
www.candiamonds.com). If you decide to activate your account by putting a deposit on a diamond, the $120 which you would pay is split into two - $100 would be a deposit for a diamond valued at $400 or more, and the $20 would be for your own replicator website for a year which CDT provides for you with a value of about $200, which you can use to market CDT's products online.

The next point is the recruitment of people and moving to a different position. Our diamond tables split because of the number of diamonds sold, not because of the recruitment of people. So you could recruit 100 people, but if no diamonds or jewelry is sold, the tables won't split and nobody will move. On the other hand, if you generated 100 diamond sales, then the diamond tables will fill up, and odds are you will cycle out and receive your $3500 marketing fee, maybe even several times.

There, you will receive a diamond or diamonds valued at what they say and then as your recruits do the same, you move up to position where you receive $3,000 plus a diamond or diamonds valued at what they say.

Once a person cycles out of the Feeder or Diamond Trading Programs, they get a marketing fee for marketing our products: $700 for the Feeder and $3500 for the Diamond Trading Program. From the $700 of the Feeder program, $500 goes towards a deposit of a diamond valued at $2000 or more, and $200 goes towards the completion of the remainder of the balance on your diamond or if you have already purchased your diamond upfront instead of putting down a deposit, we send a $200 cheque to you less any administrative fees. From the $3500 from the DTP program, $500 goes towards covering the completion of the remainder of the balance on your diamond if you only put down a $500 deposit originally. If you choose to do so, you can ask us to take out another $500 or more towards a deposit on another diamond. Depending on the situation, there may be admin and shipping fees taken out as well. The values of the diamonds you receive from the Feeder and Diamond Trading Program are guaranteed to be at least $400 and $2000 respectively.

Here is the problem.

If you are participating in a pyramid scheme and your state decides that the purpose of your program is as an investment and a means of getting $3,000, then you are participating in a pyramid fraud scheme. Are you willing to risk the reality that you may be a participant in a pyramid scheme?”

As was mentioned above, CDT has been reviewed by multiple authorities, all of whom have found it to be 100% legitimate and NOT a pyramid. Once again, if anybody has any further questions, they may contact us by phone on 1-416-742-2280, by email at support@cdtforever.com, or by fax at 1-416-742-0557.

How many people must you recruit just to get your $3,000?

The answer to this question is zero. As was explained above, in order to cycle out and receive a $3500 marketing fee, you must market our diamond products and generate sales for the company.

What are the quality of the diamonds?

All of our diamonds are appraised by the top gemological laboratories in the world including GIA, EGL, and GemScan; so you can rest assured that we sell the highest quality diamonds at half the retail price.

Why aren't there any offices in other countries?

Because all of our Diamond Traders are considered as independent contractors, there is no need for an actual office, as we are an international, internet-based business. However for the convenience of our clients at home in Toronto, Canada, we do have an office located at 5145 Steeles Ave W, Suite D802. The office is open Monday to Friday 11am to 7pm, not including holidays for anybody who would like to come and speak to us in person or to pick up their diamonds and checks.

Who is the president and ceo of the company that came up with this "brilliant" marketing plan?

The three directors who came up with this revolutionary marketing plan are:
S. Sinh Director of Acquisitions
J. Waterman Director of Research and Development
K. Lourdes Director of operations
They are all available to be contacted by setting an appointment, and the best way to set up an appointment is in writing by sending an email to support@cdtforever.com

Before you start this program, make sure you are willing to share the rewards and penalties of a sinking ship. You may be charged.

If people market in accordance with our policies and procedures rather than relying on false statements they learned from past MLMs and Network Marketing companies, they cannot be legitimately charged as our program is 100% legal as verified by several lawyers. CDT has been around since 2003 in the retail market and to date we have over 150,000 Diamond Traders worldwide and that number is growing on a daily basis. We are still selling high quality diamonds which are appraised by the top gemological laboratories in the world at half the retail price, we are still paying millions of dollars to thousands of diamond traders worldwide on a continuous basis, and everybody still is 100 to 1000 time more likely to be successful with CDT as compared to MLM or network marketing companies.

CDT Legal Department
Unit D802
5145 Steeles Ave W
Toronto, Ontario
M9L 1R5
support@cdtforever.com
www.candiamonds.com